Recently I have seen a few references on different sites to some bloggers who have decided to leave the blogging world, at least for now. One blogger, Brendan, or Novaseeker, is one of those who has taken his mind to more fertile pastures. He gives a nice explanation of why he decided to retire from the blogging world, or at least the manosphere. I found this on Hawaiian Libertarian’s blog:
I’m posting this on a couple of websites, so that people can be aware. Nothing dramatic, but more in the way of an explanation, as departures in this neck of the woods without explanation seem to create consternation.
I am departing from this corner of the internet. There are many reasons for this, and this is not a sudden decision by any means. Most of this was written a few weeks ago when I took my old blogs down, but I have been tinkering with it for a while, and, thankfully, it’s much shorter than my average comment length.
The main reason is that I disagree too much with too much of what others seem to agree upon, and it creates too much dissonance for me to be interested in participating actively. I have said what I have to say, and I think others know where I stand, and have benefited (or not) from this, and for me personally it is time to move on. This may sound harsh, but so much that now happens in this corner of the internet is quite irrelevant to real life, in many ways, and so many of the commentators are just shockingly removed from reality. At least the reality that I know and have always known.
I am not a traditionalist. I have found, through spending time with them, that I disagree with both their extreme form (Laura Woods), their intermediate form (Mark Richardson) and their mild form (Alte and her commenters). I don’t agree with the ideas, with the separation from reality, with much of the substance. It was intriguing at first, but ultimately it is a walk away from shared reality into a personal reality which I do not respect, which I think is unrealistic, and which is also deeply unmotivating.
I am also not a men’s rights activist. I don’t think this is sensible. Other than marginal improvements, like Glenn Sacks and his group are achieving (and are more than worthy of support), this is never going to be anything approaching a movement. Men don’t work that way, and it’s a wrong-headed way of approaching things.
As I have said many times, I am agnostic on marriage, really. If a man wants to get married, knowing the risks, that’s his decision. I think enough men have spoken about that by now that it’s already out there as a popular enough meme as far as I can tell on mainstream websites. If not, then that’s also their decision. The endless discussions ad nauseam about marriage and finding mates are tiresome, repetitive and frankly not terribly interesting or influential after a time. It’s great that others are willing to pursue this, but marriage as an end in itself is not something I am willing to devote much energy towards in this culture, to be honest.
I have participated for few years in this space of the internet, but all good things come to an end. I think this is an insight that many of us who have participated for a bit longer have had. There is a time for everything under the sun, and at this time, it is time for me to retreat from this space and devote my time to other things that are more productive for me at this time. I wish you all well, wherever your endgame may be.
What I find most interesting in his statement is how he finds so much of the blogging world simply divorced from reality. That has also been my experience. Spending too much time in that world is for me a waste of time.
I never quite understood this need to take blogging seriously. For me, it is little more than entertainment. I mean, how can you take seriously intellectually anyone who writes behind a permanent moniker? I particularly find the more religiously oriented sites curious in that respect, the sites which Brendan lists as the Traditionalists. If one is going to proclaim Christian truth, then why do it behind a fake name? I can understand wanting some anonymity when it comes to writing about sex, your personal life, or even touchy political topics? But Christianity? To me this is where the blogging world gets really weird. Christian writers should be transparent. I don’t recall a period in Christianity where people hid behind masks. If called out for their faith, they, or at least the true believers (which is what the Traditionalists claim to be) stood up and became martyrs. So I find it funny that so many holy warriors in the blogging world are so anonymous. But then again, like Brendan, I find most of those sites the ones that are most divorced from reality.
Often I have perceived a bit of rigidity or even fanaticism in some religious blogs. Many religious people, especially the traditionalist types, tend to write about a kind of ideal world, or tend to fantasize about a world they would like to live in, a world which they believe once existed in the past, but never did, and a world they would like to recreate in the present or future. It is an old story, going as far back as Plato and his ideals stated in the Republic. Now there is nothing wrong with this and we all do it to a certain extent, but in many ways they remind of the first groups of Christians who went out into the desert to escape the corruption of their present day society, which was the Late Roman Empire. A lot of these separatists eventually became unhealthy fanatics, and eventually the more healthy types realized some moderation was needed. These eventually developed into functional monastic orders, such as the Benedictines. So even in the realm of fantasizing about the perfect moral and political world we would like to live in, and then acting on that, there is nothing new under the sun. The world is imperfect and always will be; we would like to make it better but sometimes we go to far in our own perceptions or actions as to what would improve things. Trying to improve things through blogging is no exception.
I like to keep my fantasies focused on beautiful women, particularly naked beautiful women, and especially naked beautiful women that I might enjoy fucking.
Anyway. I remember once Ferdinand Bardamu ( http://www.inmalafide.com/) wrote that he would never take blogging seriously. Then, spurred on a few months ago by one traditionalist blogger, Alte, he decided to turn his blog into a serious forum for serious discussion. According to Alte, the time had come to begin changing the world. Perhaps it is doing some good, but the end result for me, is that I now visit it less, because I am not interested in wading through the various different opinion pieces by various lesser authors I know nothing about nor care to read. So I end up reading less of Ferdinand, when he does post. I suppose sacrifices have to be made for the cause of saving the world through blogging, but his blog has lost its unique individual character and now resembles something of the Spearhead or other such blogs. This is a loss for me, because his writing is generally far superior to most others on the web. But he followed Alte’s clarion call to cultural battle, and subsumed his personality into the generic structure of what is now just another generic, social crusading blog, filled with angry, social crusading writers. How many more of these the does the world need? They all start to sound the same after a while.
Perhaps being part of a collaborate blog is how you get known? I really don’t know. But if you want to get known, then why write in anonymity? And if you do get known, you will eventually lose that anonymity, which was perhaps the thing that helped you to write well to begin with? Who knows.
If I wanted to write serious intellectual articles about the world, politics, science, religion, ect, things which I felt might have some sort of real impact, I would not be anonymous. I would want to world to know who I was. But because I write on sex and eroticism and take all of this rather frivolously, I choose to be anonymous. Occasionally I might venture into a more serious realm of discussion, but usually not too often. For those who think that blogging is a vehicle to change the world, anonymity is the Achilles heel of the blogging world: it can lead to a sudden departure of a genuinely talented intellect, such as Roissy, or it can simply destine its adherents to a life of fear at being outed, or being outed, such as Rivelino. The same secretiveness that can lead to shocking and titillating articles on different social, cultural or political matters, can also destroy the writer at the same time. It is a double edged sword.
Another blogger, Thag Jones, also makes a statement about what she finds distasteful in blogging. http://forgetfulmuse.blogspot.com/2011/06/time-to-take-break-unless-something.html
I don’t like getting drawn into fruitless nonsense where people are more interested in seeing who is the cleverest with rhetoric and can win a debate rather than finding out what the truth is.
I also simply cannot stand the endless debates that go in the comment sections of blogs. It is like a chat room on crack cocain. As Thag says, it is often about people trying to sound clever more than anything else. And who the hell has the time to monitor so many comments? People must spend their entire lives doing nothing but reading these things, both their own and other blogs and their comment sections. I have better things to attend my mind to.
So for the most part I blog about sex, write dirty stories, and post erotic pictures, and proclaim the enjoyment of life, especially the sensual and sexual enjoyment of life. For me that is a good use of blogging: as entertainment. It is also a simple, personal outlet for different things. Anything more serious would have to be done in a different forum. That is just my preference; for those who choose otherwise, there is nothing wrong with either. I wish them luck on their calling. But I can understand why some get burned out on blogging, such as Novaseeker, and seek new things.
Thag Jones said:
When it stops being at least somewhat fun or edifying, it’s time for a break. I’m not looking to get “known” so I keep it fairly anonymous. If I started getting 100 comments on every post, I’d probably pack up and move somewhere else. I wouldn’t feel like I could say what I think with that large an audience, or like I could just rattle off a bullshit post like the one you linked here, and it would just become work, and I already do enough unpaid work!
Racer X said:
Yeah, definitely the moment it stops being fun, then it would be time for a break.
you think tan lines are hot?
Thag Jones said:
I don’t think he was looking at the tan lines.
Racer X said:
Yes, I actually think tan lines are hot. A lovely GNP nestled within a nice tan lined pelvis on a girl is today a rare but delightful treat.
Well, I was looking at more than just the tan lines.
Thag Jones said:
I think I might just take a leaf out of your book here. More idiocy ensues on that post of mine you linked and y’know, I’m pretty tired of dealing with self-righteous arseholes who want to come into your house and tell you and your guests how to behave. So look forward to a lot of frivolous nonsense from me too. 😛
(Of course, knowing me, I’m full of shit and will post serious stuff too). Hopefully my new disclaimer will put to rest the idea that I’m attempting to represent the Catholic Church (wtf? – Protestants! That’s what happens when everyone is their own Pope).
Racer X said:
I tried to link to that post of yours but I guess you have taken it down. I was looking forward to reading some of that idiocy! Self righteous arseholes are always an entertaining read.
I do look forward to more frivolous nonsense from you though.
Thag Jones said:
Sorry about that. I decided I’d had enough of it. It was only meant to be a throwaway post and this asshole Paul who writes a sickly saccharine blog, “An Attitude of Gratitude”, in which he puts up a charade of how great his life is in order to hide his control freak issues (and Lord only knows what else) decided to try to bludgeon me with Bible verses and express “fear” for my daughters because – gasp! – they might have heard me swear!!! Fuck no!!! The inhumanity!! The most irritating type of Christian out there – the ones who put everyone else off. Pretentious wanker. Also a sissy.
Nothing pisses me off faster than unfounded judgement of my parenting skills (I already know I’m not the world’s greatest parent or anything, but my kids are pretty happy and haven’t yet realized the truth, lol), or people bringing other people’s kids up to use as a weapon in an argument. That’s why I deleted Mahoney’s comments directed at Kathy a while back. The line has to be drawn somewhere. People who don’t know what they’re talking about sitting on a high horse in judgement like that can go fuck themselves.
Oh well, I have some great advice for the 0ver 40’s looking for a hot date to kick off my newly found frivolous nonsense blogging spirit!
Thag Jones said:
Oh, and I helped that shit head set up his lame fucking blog too! The thanks I get! 😛
I used to think that adults were this all knowing, wise group that had to always be obeyed. Or, well, not all adults. But I did have a profound respect for my parents and a number of teachers, and I often tiptoed around friend’s parents too.
Now that I’m legally an “adult” I realize the frightening truth that people like me are having kids! That I might ahve kids within the next decade! And that is pretty damn scary. No one is a perfect parent. But if your kids are happy and love you, then I think you’re doing a pretty good job.
For the record my dad swears in front of me and flips my mom and I off (as a joke) occasionally. Of course, I’m not allowed to swear. He’s the only one who can be a degenerate. 😛 oh yeah, he used to be a Sunday school teacher. XD
Racer X said:
Yeah, people are quick to form judgments, especially in this venue. As Mandy said, if your kids are happy and love you, you are probably doing pretty good as a parent!
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