Recently I saw a woman in Church. She was a young, attractive blonde, with a husband and small child and was sitting the pew in front of me. She was wearing a pretty and somewhat revealing blue dress, yet a dress that was still very modest. It was actually quite a nice combination, saying, yes I am attractive and sexual and a woman but I still have standards. Then at the end of Mass as people were leaving she turned around and looked at me and smiled. It was one of those moments, a brief moment of hidden yet palpable eroticism. There was a spark, a sense of something more than simply a smile.
What her motives where I am not sure. Perhaps she just enjoyed the validation. Yet somehow I think that is not the case, there simply was not enough time for such thoughts to form. It was simply a moment when two people come across each other, acknowledge a slight electrical charge of attraction, and move on. What makes it most interesting is that it happened in Church, and it happened for the second straight year, but only once. I saw this same woman a year ago and she smiled then too. It was around Christmas, so I get the sense she was visiting with her family, since I do not see her in Church at any other time.
I remember listening to a certain Deacon on a certain popular Catholic broadcast network say that he was at Church one day, and was sitting behind an attractive women, and he wanted to look at her, but he did not. No, it would have been a sin to look at her. So he gritted his teeth and made damn sure his eyes did not touch her alluring form. Apparently she was wearing a short skirt or something, which I admit can be problematic in that setting. Still, I would have looked at her. I would have enjoyed and acknowledged her beauty. If I did not look at her then I would have obsessed the entire Mass about it, until I finally looked at her. So I would have just looked at her right off the bat and gotten it out of the way. What is so wrong with looking at a beautiful woman?
I think the problem with sex, beauty and Christianity is that most Christians take the meaning of lust to an extreme. Alte actually sparked a nice discussion of this and of chastity on general on her blog: http://traditionalcatholicism.wordpress.com/2011/01/23/close-but-no-cigar/. I don’t think looking at a pretty girl is lust. Now I am not theologian, but lust to me is when you let your base, animal instincts take over, and you start desiring a woman beyond what is healthy. Lust is when you let your desires completely take control of your reason, and you begin doing things that harm yourself and others in pursuit of that lust. The strange fact of traditional Christian teaching is that it does not take into consideration that most women enjoy being “lusted” after, if you take that to mean they enjoy the desires of a virile, masculine man who is not afraid to be a man. Women dislike prudish men. In fact, I have heard many women say that they find the sight of men preaching about chastity a little weird and creepy. I have even heard Christian women say this.
But as far as my moment with that married women, what it shows is that attraction and desire are present everywhere. They are not bad; they are simply a part of life. They can appear at the most unexpected places. They are always a delight and when they do occur in such settings, they reflect more of the mystery of life, love and desire than anything else.
Augustine DeCarthage said:
Interesting post. Do you have any Church Game? Not with a married woman, obviously.
I find Church to be a fantastic venues to spot hotties. Of course, our first obligation is to Our Lord, to participate fully in the sacrifice of the Mass. But after Mass out in the vestibule or the sidewalk outside? It’s on.
MW said:
Don’t lie, you were chubbing!
Racer X said:
Augustine,
Yes, Church is a good venue for hotties! I really don’t have Church game, rather, I just meet people and take things from there. If you are looking for higher quality women, Church is the place to meet them. If you think about it, since most of the PUA crowd is rather nihilistic, agnostic, or atheistic, and dislike religion and do not belong to any Church, if you apply game to girls you meet in Church, you can have a virtual monopoly on those girls. There are many more women than men in Churches these days, so the numbers are in your favor, much more so than any other place.
Racer X said:
MW,
No chubbing, although I have come close at time in Church when bored and thinking about something sexual. I did fantasize about her though.
brightstormyday said:
What does chubbing even mean? Going after fat chicks?
Racer X said:
Chubbing means “having a raging hard-on for a girl”.
brightstormyday said:
That…makes no sense.
MW said:
I once hit subtly on a woman at a church function, who I thought was single (no ring – why? who knows). Husband and kids were mentioned shortly after that and I reefed on my mental E-brake in the nick of time. Woulda been embarrassing to say the least. But All’s well that ends well.
I would imagine that most RC parishes have many single women looking for husbands, so you are in fertile fields, Racer X.
Tuttle said:
Reminds me of the time about ten years ago when I was a tourist visiting the Suleymaniye mosque in Istanbul. I was standing outside in the courtyard waiting for prayer call to finish so my infidel ass could walk around and do the tourist thing inside when a stunningly gorgeous young Parisian woman, who looked like a younger, hotter Naomi Watts, showed up wearing a skin-tight long blue dress. At first I thought she was a tourist, too, but she apparently was there to worship. As she was performing her ablutions, she bent over and wriggled her curvy ass while looking over her shoulder at me with a sexy smile on her face. Technically she was wearing the required “modest” dress (arms and legs covered), but her outfit left NOTHING to the imagination. Such unclean thoughts in a holy place!
Racer X said:
MW,
Yes, many RC parishes do have a lot of women looking for husbands, so I am indeed in fertile fields. Perhaps I will start sowing those lovely fields.
Tuttle,
It is always fascinating for me to see nice looking church girls who still have a bit of a naughty side too. It is one of the most erotic things I can think of: a girl who shows a bit of her deep sexuality beneath the cloak of modesty.
Since so many of the game, PUA crowd is hostile to religion and faith in general, with all their Darwinian, Nietzschean views and philosophies, I find a church a great place to meet lots of attractive, available women, without a whole lot of competition. They are of the higher quality than the bar hopping, party crowd girls, but most are not frigid little prudes either, as your experience shows.
There is just something so attractive about a girl who is modest, yet still highly sexual too, and not afraid to show that sexuality, even if on occasion.
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Tuttle said:
RacerX,
Thinking back on it, I suspect the girl wasn’t really a Muslim going to prayer call. I think she was just doing it as a lark, to cocktease the faithful. First, she arrived with several Frenchmen who stood around laughing and joking with her but never went in to worship. Second, she was obviously trying to turn guys on. I mean, her sexual displays were so damn blatant. Maybe she was pulling a Burton (Sir R. F. Burton the famous explorer who snuck into Mecca–the first and maybe only infidel to do so.) Still, she was one of the most beautiful women I’ve ever laid eyes on. A real 10/10. Just flawless.
Anonymous said:
I recall the sometime ago during mass that I saw a dark haired beauty with milky white skin. She was also wearing a blue dress, but it wasn’t the sexy kind of dress. She was well covered, no shoulders revealed and hemlines below the knee. She was dressed modestly, but that form fitting dress simply couldn’t contain her sexiness. She was with her husband, and two toddler kids, a son and daughter.
Our gaze would always meet several times every week. Then one day, we bumped into each other in crowded coffee shop in another part of the city, she had nowhere else to sit but with me. That was when we got introduced. We always saw each other during lunches, like up to three times each week. She was a very beautiful woman and I could not help but make an active effort to seduce her. She was, from the very beginning, quite receptive to my advances.
After a while, it was too much for the two of us, so she went back with me to my place and an intense, passionate, and prolonged sexual encounter just exploded between the two of us.
After that, I didn’t see her for over a year when I spotted her in a grocery store. She also saw me, but she didn’t want to gaze back at me. She was with her husband. They now have a third baby.